I grew up reading a lot of SciFi. I was fascinated with sentient machines. Do you remember “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep” (aka Blade Runner) or “I, Robot”? As a kid, I hid under a blanket with a flashlight after my bedtime reading Lem and Clark until 4AM. And then Star Trek and Matrix. Ohhh… Matrix (and I, of course, mean 1 - not 2 and especially not 3). And then later in life Moravec, Kurzweil…
That’s the romantic in me. Will it happen? Perhaps. How soon? Depends on whom you believe. The entrepreneur in me thinks about time when a technology leaves the realm of sci fi writers, futurists and academia and firmly enters the business world. For AI this time is right now. In a recent interview, Mark Cuban said that the world’s first trillionaire will be an AI entrepreneur. My favorite quote from this interview is this one "We are going through the process where software will automate software, automation will automate automation.” So let’s get pragmatic for a minute or two….
I love getting involved in companies that apply revolutionary approaches to huge and well-established problems. At RingCentral, we took business communications ($140+B market) and radically changed the cost structure and accessibility by taking it to the cloud. At OpenSesame, we used the marketplace model to reinvent enterprise learning ($100+B market). My responsibility in both companies was to grow indirect revenue through partnerships, alliances and channels. In both cases, we started nearly from zero and today partnerships are responsible for a significant percentage of revenues for both companies. In my role, I spend most of my time buried neck deep in the “funnel”. How do we get more leads, more opportunities, more wins... We became successful using good partnership methodology and powerful automation tools like Salesforce, Marketo, Pardot.
From the very first time Conversica approached me, I kept thinking about that quote from Cuban “automation will automate automation”. I know a bit about marketing automation - and not only from living inside the sales and marketing funnel. Few years ago, I invested in a company called Influitive founded by my dear friend Mark Organ. Mark was the original founder of Eloqua - the company that coined the term “Marketing Automation”. So I know that all of these tools require strong (and expensive) talent in sales ops, marketing, data analysis. And what struck me in talking to Conversica is how much of that work can be automated.

And here’s the funny part. We (guys in funnel management) - set up rules of engagement for our sales people that include the minimum number of touches each lead is supposed to get (my favorite used to be 6 - 3 phone + 3 email). I say “used to be” because this approach is wrong. The number of human touches per lead should be 2 or perhaps even 1. Turns out that sales people intuitively understand something that was confirmed only fairly recently - that around 50% of all leads that will eventually convert respond on the 1st attempt and another 20% on the second. Conversion % gets close to 0 after about 10 attempts. So there’s a gap between 2 and 10 attempts which is not cost-effective for human follow up. But what about AI?
Let me summarize the 3 issues above:
- Current state of marketing automation requires expensive specialists to run it.
- Human follow up is too expensive / inefficient for the long tail of leads.
- Highly personalized communication with prospects is much more powerful than the “broadcast” method of communications inherent in marketing campaigns.
Enter Conversica. Inside your company, Conversica is just another team member. Let’s call her Connie. Connie is always polite and always persistent. Connie has no problem sending hundreds of emails a day to all of the folks who stopped by your booth. She doesn’t get tired or frustrated. She's happy to set up a demo or a call with one of her colleagues in the sales department when the prospect is ready. Connie's only goal in life is to help two humans connect at the right time. How good is Connie? Let me put it to you this way, one of the most frequent questions Connie gets is whether she can be recruited.
I have not met a sales or marketing executive who’s not facing this problem. Not a one. But sales and marketing aren’t unique this way. Similar things are happening in customer service, scheduling, recruiting, accounts receivable... We are so used to the idea that automation is much more scalable but not as effective as a human. Not as personal. Well, Connie is. And if this isn’t a billion dollar opportunity, I don’t know what is.
Convesica is on a on a stellar trajectory and I for one cannot wait to make my contribution to its success.